Credit-Taking Analysis

Quantitative Breakdown of Credit Patterns

Why Credit Matters

In volunteer communities, credit is not vanity — it's infrastructure. When people's work is acknowledged, they feel valued and continue contributing. When credit is taken or erased, contributors become invisible and eventually leave.

This page provides quantitative analysis of Elle's credit patterns compared to other contributors, based on Discord message analysis.

252 "We did" announcements
0 With explicit attribution
2.6x-2.8x Higher self-credit rate
0.33 Credit ratio (vs j.d.'s 1.33)

The Metrics

What Was Measured

Analysis of Discord messages (Noisebridge server, July 2024 - December 2025) tracking:

Comparison: Elle vs Other High-Volume Contributors

Metric Elle Elan LX j.d. zoda
Total Messages 2,276 5,195 1,526 2,356 1,274
Credits Given 8 11 2 12 5
Self-Credits 24 21 6 9 5
Credit Ratio 0.33 0.52 0.33 1.33 1.00
Self-Credit Rate 1.05% 0.40% 0.39% 0.38% 0.39%

Key Findings

The "We Did" Pattern

What This Looks Like

252 Announcements, 0 Attributions

Elle made 252 announcements using "we got/have/did" language. None explicitly credited the people who actually did the work.

Examples

"We got a grant!"

Who wrote the grant? Unknown.

"We have 2 new machines coming in!"

Who acquired them? Who transported them? Who set them up? Unknown.

"Membership drive going strong!"

Who organized it? Who's running it? Unknown.

Why This Matters

When someone says "We did X" without naming names, listeners make an association. The announcer becomes implicitly credited. Over 252 announcements:

  1. The actual contributors become invisible
  2. Elle becomes associated with "all the work"
  3. Future volunteers feel less motivated (their work won't be acknowledged)
  4. The Bottleneck Pattern reinforces itself

The "I Did" Rate

What This Measures

Explicit self-credit: messages containing "I did", "I made", "I organized", etc.

PersonSelf-creditsTotal messagesRate
Elle 24 2,276 1.05%
Elan 21 5,195 0.40%
LX 6 1,526 0.39%
j.d. 9 2,356 0.38%
zoda 5 1,274 0.39%

Why The Difference?

All five contributors did real work. The difference is in how they talked about it:

Elle's PatternOthers' Pattern
"I organized the fashion show" "Thanks to @A, @B, and @C for making the event happen" (zoda)
"I ran the sewing class" "Huge kudos/shoutout to @X for debugging the Wiki!" (Elan)
"I helped with the grant" "Big thanks to @A and @B for scanning" (LX)
"We got new machines" (no attribution) "Thank you @Y, that was a fun and informative class" (j.d.)

Credit Balance

What This Measures

Credit ratio: (credits given ÷ self-credits). Ratio above 1.0 means giving more credit than taking. Below 1.0 means taking more than giving.

PersonMessagesCredits GivenSelf-CreditsRatio
Elle 2,276 8 24 0.33
Elan 5,195 11 21 0.52
LX 1,526 2 6 0.33
j.d. 2,356 12 9 1.33
zoda 1,274 5 5 1.00

Interpretation

Critical Difference: Despite similar message volume to j.d. (2,276 vs 2,356), Elle gave credit only 8 times vs j.d.'s 12, while taking credit 24 times vs j.d.'s 9.

The Sewing Channel Case Study

Volume Analysis

Elle's Dominance in #sewing

The Question Pattern

Analysis of questions in #sewing shows how credit-taking and bottlenecking reinforce each other:

"Please advise from Elle over me"— Jet
"Elle would know"— Mike
"@Elle do you know..."— Pattern repeated dozens of times

The Feedback Loop

  1. Elle announces "we got new machines" (no attribution)
  2. Community associates machines with Elle (implicit credit)
  3. Questions route to Elle ("Elle would know")
  4. Elle answers all questions (becomes more central)
  5. Others stop trying to help (Elle's the expert)
  6. Elle does more work herself (no one else stepped up)
  7. Elle gets frustrated ("no one comes to my meetings")
  8. Repeat

See: Bottleneck Pattern for full analysis

The Impact on Contributors

What Happens When Work Isn't Credited

Contributors Feel Invisible

When Elle says "we got new machines" without naming who acquired them, those people's work becomes invisible. After enough repetitions, they stop volunteering.

New Volunteers Don't Emerge

Potential helpers see that Elle does everything and gets associated with everything. They assume there's no room for them, or that their work won't be recognized.

Meeting Attendance Drops

Elle complained "no one comes to my meetings." But when credit flows one direction, why would people attend meetings where they won't be acknowledged?

The "Vibe" Tanks

The credit imbalance creates interpersonal friction that makes the space feel less welcoming.

Contrast: Positive Credit Patterns

What Healthy Credit Balance Looks Like

j.d., zoda, and Elan consistently credited others by name. Here are real examples:

Typej.d.zodaElan
Announcements "Thank you @X, that was a fun and informative class!" "Thanks to @A, @B, and @C for making the event happen" "Huge kudos/shoutout to @X for debugging the Wiki!"
Accomplishments "Thank you @Y for the photo and the tip" "@A did the hard work" "Shoutout to @Z for the speedy diagnosis!"
Collaborative Work "Thank you @A for helping calm the situation" "Great session with @B learning about Y" "Thank you @C! Definitely a critical part of the path"
Credit Ratio 1.33 (gives 33% more) 1.00 (balanced) 0.52 (deficit but better per-message rate)

The Result

The Connection to Other Patterns

How Credit-Taking Enables Other Dysfunctions

PatternHow Credit-Taking Enables It
Bottleneck Pattern When credit flows to one person, questions route to them, reinforcing centralization
Policy Injection Being seen as "the expert" (via credit accumulation) makes fabricated rules more believable
Escalation Moves Accumulated credit creates perceived authority to make demands
Mediator Burnout Pattern of not acknowledging others' contributions extends to mediation, burning out facilitators

How to Avoid This Pattern

Track Your Own Credit Ratio

  1. Count your "I did" vs "Thanks to" — Aim for more "thanks to" than "I did"
  2. Never announce without attribution — "We did X" → "Thanks to @A, @B, @C who did X"
  3. Name names publicly — The more specific, the better
  4. Deflect credit when appropriate — "@X did the hard work, I just helped"
  5. Distribute questions — "Ask @Y who knows this better than me"

Recognition: Warning Signs

Red FlagWhat It Looks Like
Frequent "we did" with no names Announcements that create associations without attribution
People stop volunteering Initial enthusiasm that fades when work isn't acknowledged
All questions route to you "Ask @You" becomes the default answer
"No one helps anymore" Complaint that others stopped contributing
You're seen as "doing everything" Community views you as sole contributor despite others' work

Key Findings

  1. Credit is infrastructure, not vanity

    252 unattributed announcements erased contributors and reinforced bottleneck

  2. The "we did" pattern is invisible credit-taking

    Announcements without names create implicit associations with the announcer

  3. 2.6x-2.8x higher self-credit rate than peers

    Elle's 1.05% vs Elan (0.40%), LX (0.39%), j.d. (0.38%), zoda (0.39%) — consistent pattern across multiple comparisons

  4. Credit ratio shows structural imbalance

    Elle's 0.33 ratio (takes 3x more than gives) vs j.d.'s 1.33 (gives 33% more than takes) and zoda's 1.00 (balanced)

  5. Pattern holds despite comparable message volume

    Elle (2,276 messages) vs j.d. (2,356 messages): Elle gave credit 8 times vs j.d.'s 12, took credit 24 times vs j.d.'s 9

  6. Quantifiable impact on community

    Low meeting attendance, no new volunteers, gaps when Elle left

  7. Reinforces other dysfunctions

    Enables bottleneck, supports policy injection authority, creates interpersonal friction